Women's Lib: High Holidaze Talks Weed Podcasts
Weed gives you hope that other people think you're funny too.
Margaret and Susan moved to California from the deep South almost three years ago. Since then, the pot they smoke has only gotten better and the scenery more beautiful.
In 2014, they began sporadically recording episodes of their podcast, High Holidaze, which they say is really them celebrating weed and the holidays we smoke it on.
A year later their highly lovable newsletter, Smoke Break, was born.
They both have day jobs where they are surrounded by people who have no idea how cool they really are, or so they say.
They are also both addicted to sour candy and trying to meet other people’s dogs. And their insight into their lives and weed is well-entertaining and worth your time, I promise.
The Kind: What is High Holidaze and why did you start it?
Susan: High Holidaze is a podcast about weed and holidays. We try to put out an episode a month—except we end up getting high and forgetting half the time. For Valentine’s Day 2015, we talked about a weed dating app. On St. Patrick’s Day, we tried our first Shamrock Shake. And for our most recent episode, Presidents’ Day, we discussed the marijuana policies of the presidential candidates, plus which past president we most wanted to smoke weed with. We’re always stoned when we record, and hopefully we’re as funny as we think we are!
Margaret: I think the idea for High Holidaze sprang out of a mutual enjoyment for great conversation. Especially sativa-induced conversation. We wanted to create something to do with pot, but we weren’t sure what. Podcasts are great in that way. You can pretty much mold them to whatever format works for what you want to share or tell. And they are also very DIY friendly, which is an ethos we are both strongly tied to. Fifteen years ago, there wouldn’t have been an outlet for us that’s similar to podcasting—maybe a radio show or something. So we really appreciate it as a form of communication. I guess the Holidaze thing popped up because we needed some type of outlier or theme to bring it all together. It seemed conducive to a time frame we were trying to work around.
The Kind: Tell me about Smoke Break.
Margaret: Smoke Break is a bi-weekly newsletter that we started in January of this year. Since we both come from strong editorial backgrounds, we had been thinking for some time about starting another weed-related venture that would incorporate an outlet for writing. We both work 9-5 jobs; so we needed something a little low-pressure. There were already a few great weed blogs and newsletters (like The Kind!) that we followed, and we wanted to contribute to that developing media culture. So we brainstormed and came up with the idea of creating a subscription-based newsletter where we could have a space to curate videos, links, and other relevant weed stories that we thought were essential reading.
Giving the newsletter a feminist twist was just something that came naturally, I think—there’s so much content about weed out there right now (both good and bad), and there’s only going to be more; so we wanted to kind of steer the narrative by sifting through it, finding what was important to us, and sharing it with other like-minded people. We highlight women’s stories and interview women who inspire us. We also incorporate recurring bits, like “Today’s Historical Stoner,” where we highlight women who have contributed to cannabis culture through specific activism or social justice, or those who contributed to the larger cause of women in any way—and who may have happened to have an affinity for weed.
There are tons of women doing cool things around marijuana in all sorts of industries, from education to business to entertainment, and it’s going to continue to grow.
The Kind: What is it like being a woman in the cannabis space?
Susan: I’m a woman who mostly gets high with my best friend who happens to be a woman, but we’re usually more focused on what snacks we’re going to eat than on our roles as women in the weed world. On the other hand, with Smoke Break, we are obviously striving to create community and conversation about being a woman in this space; so we are trying to create conversations and grow the kind of cannabis community that we want to see. I don’t know. This is a tough question!
Margaret: I don’t think about it constantly, but I do think it’s important to make a distinction between our values and the values of some other sects of weed culture, like the male-dominated “Boobs n Buds” narrative. There hasn’t been a moment where we’ve experienced intimidation or misogyny, but I do think that the possibility of that happening in the future is not out of the question. Weed is fun, weed is awesome. But in an industry that’s becoming increasingly corporate, we want to stay true to our values, whether they are “female”-specific values or not—camaraderie, community, self-care. There’s also a strong sisterhood among female potheads, and I don’t know if that necessarily exists in the same way for males.
The Kind: Why is it important for women to "investigate, experiment, self-medicate, and augment their understanding of the weed world around them" with weed?
Margaret: I know that it’s impossible for every woman to feel the way we do about weed, and we definitely aren’t about pressuring non-smokers into becoming potheads. But something about taking small moments to step back and get high alone or with a friend has a lot of therapeutic value. There’s also something calming about the procedure of it all—buying it, grinding it, packing it, smoking it. It’s another form of self-care for us. And cannabis is beginning to offer up so many new roles and opportunities for women. It’s liberating to choose your own adventure when it comes to how you become a part of the culture. There are so many sides to it. There aren’t a lot of rules.
Susan: Because weed is cool! Even if you aren’t into the investigating/experimenting/self-medicating/augmenting your understanding part of it, it’s a big part of the political, cultural, and economic landscape in 2016. There are tons of women doing cool things around marijuana in all sorts of industries, from education to business to entertainment, and it’s going to continue to grow. Unless America elects some wacky president who decides to turn the tide back on all the progress marijuana activists have made. God forbid.
The Kind: What are your favorite strains to smoke? Where is your favorite smoke spot?
Margaret: I think either Blue Dream or Girl Scout Cookies was the first strain we smoked in California where we were really able to tell a difference in our high. Blue Dream especially was like… whoa. We basically hold true to the credo that smoking before most activities improves them drastically… unless you’re doing something like your taxes. I love being high outside. We’re lucky to live in one of the most beautiful parts of the country. There is always something lovely to see. We also love getting really faded and going to the movies. And to the mall. And before eating delicious food.
Susan: Like everything else in my life, I always end up buying whatever’s on sale, but Blue Dream is always dependable. I’ve probably smoked more weed in Margaret’s car than in any other single location. At any given time, there’s a joint, a Gpen, a pipe, and who knows how many stray nugs tucked away into its nooks and crannies. One time, we even hit the gravity bong on a street in Chicago in the middle of the day. I promise it was parked at the time.